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作者: 1453418544    时间: 2015-7-14 14:21:11     标题: BEYOND1985坚岛永爱永远等待演唱会(足本修复版)

本帖最后由 1453418544 于 2015-7-14 18:01 编辑

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首先,感谢把录音分享出来的歌迷。其次我想说说他的毛病,他的波段只能到中音的一半,中音另外一半和高音区部分是杂音,所以注定了这个音频怎么修也不会好的情况。不知道是分享者转录时使用了外录的问题,还是本来带子就这样。

我粗略地修复了一下(因为这种音频怎么修也是那样,深入修只会越修越坏),调为正常速度,调了下均衡,去掉了一些杂音,经过对比之后,《再见理想》中的现场《旧日的足迹》为这个演唱会的现场录音,正好歌迷分享的音频嘈杂也不完整,我就把《再见理想》中的官方录音补了上去,希望大家喜欢,并希望分享者看到之后看看是否为自己外录音频的问题导致波段不完整,如果是的话,可以交给熟人或者本人帮忙内转录,谢谢!

曲目如下:
01.飘忽的她
02.飞越苦海
03.永远等待
04.Drum & Guitar Solo
05.再见理想.
06.Long Like Rock N' Roll
07.Building
08.The Other Door
09.Brian Attack
10.Long Way Without Friends
11.旧日的足迹(官方清晰录音)1
12.家驹 Solo
13.午夜聚会
14.Last Man Who Knows You
15.Myth
16.Death Romantic & Dead Romance (Part I.II)

百度盘下载:

作者: 嘉烨    时间: 2015-7-14 14:30:29

谢谢楼主分享
作者: 43898824    时间: 2015-7-14 14:40:03

谢谢楼主分享
作者: 陳-星    时间: 2015-7-14 14:48:00

感谢分享了!
作者: 听家驹的话    时间: 2015-7-14 14:51:36

谢谢分享。。
作者: zhouhoujie    时间: 2015-7-14 15:21:10

谢谢分享
作者: zhoukehuang    时间: 2015-7-14 16:09:15

辛苦楼主了            
作者: 345724583    时间: 2015-7-14 16:10:21


作者: beyondzhu    时间: 2015-7-14 16:14:34

我想可能有这几种情况,
1,当年的设备本来就很差。
2,磁带放置了这么多年,保存不当
3,分享者可能像楼主说的没有采用内录。
我又要说国外了,看看国外的歌迷是怎么做的:
分享者会对每一个bootleg作品都取一个名字,有些没有名字的会取xxxx年xx月xx日 Recorder x(因为同一场演出会有不同歌迷都录音所以用recorder1,2,3...)
分享者会有一段文字说明,说明这是什么时候什么地点什么演出,曲目是什么,用什么设备录制,转成数字格式用什么设备,生成什么文件,还会回忆一段当年的情况或者对这个资源的一些其他的说明。不管这个资源的音质怎样都是发布无损格式,而且会说明请不要再转换成MP3发布。(可能有人会说本来这个录音音质就不好的,无损不无损都差别不大。但是。。。具体原因请有音频知识的人士回答到底有没有差别)

以下是引用国外歌迷的一些说明txt:希望对今后牛逼人物发布bootleg时能做一个参考。
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Manchester 1969-06-22 (24bit/96kHz)
**Lord Snooty 1st Gen Cassettes**

Pink Floyd
June 22nd 1969
Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England

Lineage: Philips Portable Cassette Recorder + Mic > One C60 tape + Demonstration Tape > Maxell UDXL II Cassette > Nakamichi 700> Cakewalk UA-1G > Audacity 1.3 > Wav (24bit/96kHz) ----> Samplitude10 (32bit float/96kHz) > Wav (24bit/96kHz) > CDWave (1.98) > FLAC


***Lord Snooty's Notes***
I first made contact with John when I was given his address in the late 80's. Originally he had given out a copy of his tape with a running time of about 38 minutes, he reasoned that no one would be interested in the recording due to the numerous flaws and breaks. He was persuaded to make a copy of all he had captured that night.

I sent out a few DAT copies from this tape during the mid to late 90's, and this is probably the source of most circulating versions. I understand that a claimed 'from the master tape' source is around, but I would suggest that this is pure bunkum.  John has since lost the master.  

***Neonknight's Notes***
A friend of mine corresponded with the taper John Baxter about 10 years ago. He was pleased to learn that copies of his tapes were still doing the rounds as he lost his masters.

John went to the concert with a companion and they were sat in row B or C in front of Richard Wright. The recording was made on a Philips portable recorder and they used the microphone that came with the machine. To record on John had one previously used C60 tape and the demonstration cassette that had come with the recorder, with the record protect holes taped over so it could be used. They were quite nervous, being only 16 at the time, and John noted that they didn't really understand the medium they were using. The body of the mic had a remote control switch which they regularly utilised in an attempt to achieve maximum highlights, hence all the numerous cuts.

With the regularly distorted sound and various disruptions to the flow of the music, it's unlikely that this concert will ever be at the top of people's playlists but its fortunate that it exists so we can better understand this fascinating period in the band's career.

You might like to particularly listen out for evidence of the Azimuth Co-ordinator, which panned sound around the Free Trade Hall in quadrophonic sound. It featured 2 pan pots and 4 channels and debuted at the Royal Festival Hall on 14 April 1969. The Co-Ordinator is currently on display at London抯 Victoria & Albert Museum (April 2010).

***Littlepieces' Mastering Notes***
This is a mono recording that was processed as two channel stereo. The left channels output is much higher and though the difference varies, it is generally 4-5db higher than the right except where noted.  The recording has a phase shift that varies mostly from 0.06ms to 0.20ms and much more during the second half of 'Doing It' and 'BtToL' and "TEotB'.  Given the content of the channels are the same, except where noted, I eliminated the right channel and replaced it with the stronger left channel for most of the recording.  This resolved both the phasing and channel output issues for most of the recording.

The last 2:10m of 'Doing It' from about 8:12m - 10:22m has very different characteristics than the rest of the recording.  The SQ of this segment is considerably less than the rest of the recording. On this segment only, the output difference switches channels with the right becoming the dominent channel by at least 5db though still 4db less than the 1st part of 'doing it'.  The phase shift becomes 0.80ms-0.90ms which is more than 2x greater than any other part of the recording.  Also, the left channel includes content bleeding through that is not part of the show.  In addition, at the beginning and end of this portion of 'doing it', there are short bursts of radio content that are not part of this show. Both of these bursts were removed.  At times this segment of 'doing it' sounds like its duplicating some of the first 1:23m before the SQ change, but I couldn't definitively verify this so all content was retained.  Though the left channel on this 2:10m portion of 'Doing It' was more than 5db less than the right, it had better dynamics and HF content than the right so it was retained, its gain increased 6db, and the channels manually aligned to improve the phasing.

Except for 'Doing It', the tracks 'Behold the Temple of Light' and 'The End of the Beginning' have lessor SQ than the rest of the recording. Also, except for 'doing it', the phase shift at 0.40ms was 2x greater than the rest of the recording.  The right channel had better HF content than the stronger left channel and therefore it was retained, its gain increased 4.8db, and the channels manually aligned to improve the phasing. The left channels gain was also increased 1.5db since these last two tracks of "The Man' were lower overall than the rest of the suite.  

The lesser SQ and the additional HF content in the weaker channel of 'Doing It', 'Behold the Temple of Light', and 'The End of the Beginning' was likely due to the phase shift being greater than the rest of the recording.

Those familiar with this recording know the taper stopped his recorder often, creating cuts and restarts within some tracks. Also, there are many micro dropouts probably caused by slight depressions of the stop or pause button.  The objective was to repair/smooth these sections without removing any real content from the document.  Whenever possible, harsh artifacts created by the tape recorder being stopped or started were eliminated or reduced and dead air was removed.  Many of the micro dropouts were improved by eliminating the small bit of non-content and splicing.  There were 9 segments that I was able to use content from the right channel to replace dropouts in the left channel.  These varied in length from 0.023s to 1.750s.  On three of these short segments the gain was increased to improve the transparency of the drop out.

There were about 20 noises removed.  The objective was to retain the various mic disturbances with the few exceptions being very prominent and ill-timed occasions.  These few were reduced significantly so as not to disrupt the show as much.

During STC there is an artifact that is also in the DAT versions.  A sort of light ticking that can be seen in the spectral between 10-15k.  I used the pencil tool to manually remove most of these.

The speed of 'The Man' is generally less than 1% off so I chose not to subject it to a SpC/resample.  "The Journey' and the encore STC are running about 1.2% slow so I adjusted the speed on these tracks only.

The Man
01.  [02:53]  Daybreak (Part 1)
02.  [01:06]  Work
03.  [02:45]  Afternoon
04.  [03:33]  Doing It!
05.  [05:30]  Sleeping
06.  [07:45]  Nightmare
07.  [01:50]  Daybreak (Part 2)

The Journey
08.  [03:20]  The Beginning
09.  [07:27]  Beset By the Creatures of the Deep
10.  [05:34]  The Narrow Way
11.  [01:53]  Behold the Temple of Light
12.  [08:11]  The End of the Beginning

Encore
13.  [11:42]  Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun

      [63:36]  Total

Lord Snooty Tape Transfer/ Little Pieces Production (LPP) / Arrangements by Neonknight  (April 2010)
*******************************************************************************************************

作者: 超级坏蛋新    时间: 2015-7-14 16:19:01

制作辛苦了,支持一个!
作者: beyondzhu    时间: 2015-7-14 16:21:59

另外我个人觉得再次的修复不可能比发布的更加好,减少了噪音势必会对其他有用的音频有影响。

当然我们需要这方面的热心人才,能够为更多的歌迷提供更好的东西。辛苦楼主制作。
作者: 1453418544    时间: 2015-7-14 16:52:36

本帖最后由 1453418544 于 2015-7-14 18:00 编辑
beyondzhu 发表于 2015-7-14 16:21
另外我个人觉得再次的修复不可能比发布的更加好,减少了噪音势必会对其他有用的音频有影响。

当然我们需 ...


原版音频嘈杂得让你几乎无法听下去,我把尖锐的声音消了部分,观众的声音消了大半,对比之下是柔和多了,消掉的是废音,好的音应该保留下来了,毕竟这个音频波段只到中音的一半。
作者: 1453418544    时间: 2015-7-14 16:55:02

beyondzhu 发表于 2015-7-14 16:14
我想可能有这几种情况,
1,当年的设备本来就很差。
2,磁带放置了这么多年,保存不当

他那个原件本来就是MP3格式啊,而且我看了频谱,最多达到32kbps上下的码率,为了不过多磨损一首好的官方录音,我还是选用了128kbps编码。源文件用320kbps编码,太浪费了。
作者: Visyoung    时间: 2015-7-14 17:45:25

感谢分享···
作者: 永远的黄家驹70    时间: 2015-7-14 18:44:37

极好极好的
作者: 宝毅爱Rock    时间: 2015-7-14 18:56:24

谢谢分享!!!!
作者: beyond8866    时间: 2015-7-14 19:11:28

谢谢分享!!!
作者: yunpeng3358    时间: 2015-7-14 19:37:18

谢谢楼主分享
作者: wuleideyihan    时间: 2015-7-14 20:51:15

太棒了,已经很好了
作者: haolanxin007    时间: 2015-7-14 21:00:19

绝对好料!多谢楼主辛苦修复和分享啦!
作者: 1162676702    时间: 2015-7-14 21:02:40

谢谢楼主分享。
作者: 忘我    时间: 2015-7-14 21:41:12

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作者: wuhengz    时间: 2015-7-14 22:34:57

谢谢楼主分享
作者: fenglin59    时间: 2015-7-14 22:53:20

很好的资源
作者: rockymyway    时间: 2015-7-14 22:54:03

謝謝,這個足本終於來了
作者: FDGH    时间: 2015-7-14 23:46:32

谢谢分享。。
作者: 概念号    时间: 2015-7-14 23:55:12


作者: DNOYEB    时间: 2015-7-15 00:15:16

谢谢楼主分享
作者: mssoho    时间: 2015-7-15 01:28:42

ND1985坚岛永爱永远等待演唱会(足本修复版) [修改]
作者: 水元素    时间: 2015-7-15 02:12:32

这是怎么修复的?请问
作者: MINI    时间: 2015-7-15 04:07:43

永遠支持 懷念家駒。
作者: zero_zero_w    时间: 2015-7-15 06:43:58

love kakui
作者: xudong6471899    时间: 2015-7-15 07:05:13

真心不错噢,值得纪念的一场演唱会,谢谢楼主
作者: 傾泠丶    时间: 2015-7-15 20:54:23

看看。。。。
作者: 小瓶盖    时间: 2015-7-16 23:11:11

多谢楼主!!!
作者: ikkiikki    时间: 2015-7-17 00:09:56

感謝分享                                    
作者: jenmheing    时间: 2015-7-17 10:18:37

感谢楼主分享
作者: kpppok    时间: 2015-7-17 10:45:42

謝謝樓主分享
作者: nasa    时间: 2015-7-17 10:53:31

谢谢。。。。。
作者: bydxxg    时间: 2015-7-18 10:28:56

制作辛苦了,支持一个
作者: 刘兴桃    时间: 2015-7-18 13:29:08

谢谢分享         
作者: wake3332000    时间: 2015-7-20 07:06:40

谢谢楼主分享
作者: GHJ9632    时间: 2015-7-20 14:53:30

支持 谢谢分享 珍贵
作者: jiayanqing1    时间: 2015-7-21 17:19:04

fenchangganxie感谢楼主
作者: lishupeng123    时间: 2015-7-22 01:59:43

谢谢楼主无私分析
作者: tebo    时间: 2015-7-23 16:47:34

谢谢楼主的分享!!!!
作者: tyreal81    时间: 2015-7-28 11:35:41

谢谢楼主分享.
作者: tyreal81    时间: 2015-7-28 11:36:40

谢谢楼主分享.
作者: tyreal81    时间: 2015-7-28 11:38:42

谢谢楼主分享。
作者: 007    时间: 2015-7-31 11:49:35

支持支持支持
作者: rockymyway    时间: 2015-7-31 12:33:14

樓主什麼是足本修複版呢?哪部份被修複了??
作者: rockymyway    时间: 2015-7-31 12:35:59

樓主什麼是足本修複版呢?哪部份被修複了??
作者: hhm1234    时间: 2015-8-1 09:56:15

谢谢楼主分享
作者: bbsbeyond    时间: 2015-8-1 15:20:46

kk。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: @beyond    时间: 2015-8-5 22:48:21

谢谢版主的分享,,。。
作者: FullHD8    时间: 2015-8-7 03:04:32


作者: 江湖黑客    时间: 2015-8-14 14:28:49

经典就是经典
作者: amani77    时间: 2015-9-14 23:39:35

不错,谢谢分享!
作者: ifggk    时间: 2015-9-15 23:20:40

感谢分享……
作者: 14795983736    时间: 2015-10-28 02:47:28

感谢分享。。。
作者: andyde    时间: 2015-10-28 14:50:41

谢谢分享,下来听听
作者: 晓晓晓1    时间: 2015-10-29 22:11:29


谢谢楼主分享
作者: dong    时间: 2015-11-11 12:59:43

谢谢!!!!!!楼主一看就很专业  支持一下!!!!!
作者: 你们还好吗    时间: 2015-11-11 15:47:58

感谢楼主分享!!
作者: 暮光之城    时间: 2015-11-12 15:08:45

很不错的好资源,这个绝对不能错过的啊
作者: zhouzhou1998    时间: 2015-11-14 18:17:00

谢谢楼主分享
作者: 爱beyond爱    时间: 2015-12-20 13:04:59

谢谢分享!
作者: luxinglai424    时间: 2016-1-3 00:11:58

非常感谢楼主大大
作者: 爱koma驹    时间: 2016-8-3 23:55:59

开心  谢谢分享
作者: kajlacsoki    时间: 2016-8-7 23:46:51

多谢楼主辛苦修复和分享啦!
作者: zhouzhou87311    时间: 2016-8-8 09:18:01

又有好东西了
作者: 消失记忆    时间: 2016-8-9 14:31:16

好久没有来论坛了,这么多猛料!
作者: pansen521    时间: 2016-8-11 13:50:03

多谢楼主分享
作者: B安    时间: 2016-8-21 09:48:24

楼主辛苦了,修复是很漫长的过程。
作者: liudechao9    时间: 2016-8-21 10:14:58

谢谢楼主分享
作者: lixianbingcool    时间: 2016-8-27 15:49:05

感谢分享。。。
作者: feynman伟伟    时间: 2016-11-17 14:15:29

谢谢分享啊
作者: jcknot    时间: 2016-11-22 20:31:54

制作辛苦了
作者: beyondip    时间: 2016-11-22 21:49:57


作者: panjiaju    时间: 2016-12-2 11:36:59

谢谢楼主55
作者: 甘食美服    时间: 2016-12-2 11:52:40

支持支持支持支持支持
作者: bangchun83    时间: 2017-2-18 11:09:51

谢谢分享都是稀有资源
作者: zcxps2    时间: 2017-2-23 18:01:21

这是真的吗!!天呐!!




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